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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:57 am    Post subject: Panic attack while having SP ?
 
This is my biggest and really only fear about having a recurrence.

I need someone to reassure me here..

I suffer from panic attacks sometimes, when I feel a sharp pain or a gurgle.. My heart rate usually evelvates and I become breathless and hyperventilate. Half an hour to an hour I'm usually all fine and realise it was just anxiety.. That's all fine and I'm dealing with that.

BUT If I were to have another SP.. (My last and only one was 3 years ago) .. and I started panicking and hyperventilating, will this cause deadly repocations.. meaning would it make my lung collapse further and further maybe me making me pass out and turning into a Tension SP ?

Or is this my anxiety getting the better of me.. can anyone with this experience please reassure me I'm being silly so I can get on with my life and if it happens I'll be fine ??

Thanks, Adam.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject:
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject:
 
Hey Smile Anxiety is a bitch.. i had a lot of them after my SP-ops and finally got a dog to treat them for me.. It worked like a charm Smile

I dont think Anxiety can trigger a tention sp. And usually when i had the attacks they were based on that my brain knew nothing was wrong but just malfunctioned in the signals. When something actually happened i had no anxiety at all..

Sorry to be short. my new son is running around me.

Good luck, and find your happy place Smile(or animal, as i did)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:51 am    Post subject:
 
Hey ceebee,

good to see you around again Smile
I hope because not of a reoccurring SP ? How are you going with those ?

as for your reply.. Thankyou, it does make sense if I were to experience another .. I would probably not suffer from a panic attack at the same time ..
This puts me a bit at ease.

I might even get a dog! haha

Thanks man.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject:
 
Hey Adam,

I often feel the same way, I have a history of anxiety and some panic attacks and I have only been dealing with lung issues since November, so this is all so new to me and my anxiety has been thru the roof!

For instance, only this past week have I started to go more than 24 hours without lung pains/chest pains since my bullectomy in December, so yesterday I started getting back pain, lung pain, etc, and started to panic. My family must be over hearing about it because I think (and usually say out loud every time) "What if it's collapsing again!!?" every time I feel something unusual. Then sure enough it goes away.

I realize, after all the posts I have read on this website, we just unfortunately may have these pains come and go our whole lives, and if we are lucky after a while we may never feel them again as well, so I just try to calm myself that way. When I think it may happen again, at least I know what it is like and can just get to the hospital and go through another little ordeal, even though it is a terrible experience.

For anxiety, I started taking a new herbal/vitamin L-Theanine, since I did not want to be on any more prescriptions of any kind since the hospital stays, and it helps with my sleep as well. Maybe it's a placebo effect, who knows, but for me it seems to relax me. Worth a try at least!

Hope you are feeling better!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:48 am    Post subject:
 
Thanks for the reply!

I know how you feel, and hope you're getting better with that aswell.

I will look into Herbal vitamins aswell..

What kind of frustrates me is.. Reading things online to be honest. I would be happy and care free right now If I hadn't researched this online. Because the way I saw it when It happened to me.. (Mine was just a minor collapse) 20% or something. But I still required needle aspiration. I was in and out of Hospital for one night, good as new.

Then I come online and see everyone who has more then one? No one has had one it seems and moved on. SO now I'm just living in fear of another one, It's ridiculous. I keep thinking over things in my head, like maybe I should just have surgery to stop thinking about it.. It's a never ending Anxiety train of thought for me and It's eaten 3 years of life.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject:
 
I agree with you about doing the research!

To be honest, finding this site (and other random ones as well), has been both good and terribly bad for me at the same time. I was the same as you, with thinking it may not necessarily be as big of a deal as it was until I began to look into it further. Chances of reccurance, long term chronic pains, etc.

I had my right lung collapse in November, it was I believe almost 70% by the time they inserted a chest tube, spent 4 days in hospital and was sent on my way! I felt okay, seemed to heal up fine, had no concerns, until I started researching things and went to my first follow up appointment. At that appointment, I asked about reccurance, and was told it will probably happen again, maybe in a couple years. I thought, hmm, scary, but I guess we will see. But, 5 days after that appointment it collapsed again! That second time, horribly, much worse, and was immediately taken in for the VATS Bullectomy with Mechanical Pleurodisis as a lot of others seemed to have had. Spent almost a week in there, and as you know I am now today over a month at home and still trying to recover and not be anxious about it!

I am however happy I did find this site, because I was able to use sites like this to bring up my questions and concerns at doctors appts recently (although they still weren't much help answering them hah).

My fear now is people on this site have mentioned multiple collapses since their VATS surgery, which I thought was a very small chance of happening, so now I still think even after surgery I am not in the clear. Also the people who've have bilateral collapses and VATS on each lung...that worries me. Considering my last appointment the doctor told me he pretty knows I have Blebs on my left lung and life now is just a waiting game until they pop! Preventative VATS apparently isn't as option for me on that left lung, even despite my history. Scares the hell out of me, and infuriates me.

Keep on keepin' on!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:58 pm    Post subject:
 
Hi all, guess im pretty much feeling the same way after bilateral vats bullectomy & plurectomy in November.
I had a collapse 7 years before my recent problems and the niggly pains and fear of it happening didnt go away in all that time It was almost a relief when it did actually collapse.
Now they tell me im fixed! Shocked but here I am worrying with weird pains wondering what if............ Rolling Eyes
I just keep reminding myself I am breathing!!!!!!
As for anxiety I find popping those stressbuster balloon /pop the bubble games very helpful. Takes your mind off it.
Also took up knitting for a while, well it was anything to hang on to my sanity if you know what I mean,
got a nice long scarf out of it though Wink
Not too sure if it saved my sanity LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject:
 
Wow, I guess I shouldn't be complaining so much Lol. after hearing you guys had to go through several collapses and surgery..

I really do hope we can resume life as we did, but I can hardly remember not being full of Anxiety since my collapse.

I guess, I should be a bit thankful.. My doctors have suggested, I don't have any blebs but I caused Barotrauma on my lungs due to excessive Bong use of Weed.. So In some ways my collapse was a blessing in disguise because it caused me to stop smoking.. hmm.

Now I just wonder.. Ok, but can I resume life as in jump on a long haul flight, maybe Skydive even SCUBA ? I don't know.. My doctor gives me the all clear to do all those things.. But I don't trust me body anymore which is really sad.. lol.

Heres hoping to getting on with life! Goodluck to all.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject:
 
My son is 5 yrs since VATS and still feels pressure, etc which in turn causes anxiety. When its more than "normal" he does go to the Dr to make sure... they've all been fine (including many air trips)... guess there can be pulling, muscle and nerve things, etc. I remember reading on here before that the majority of people have no problems or reoccurences. They would tend not to post... Glad for all the info on this site though!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject:
 
ive ad a yr free frm collapses n i still panic wen i gt strange feelings and pains in da chest area, bt ave learned 2 live wid dem i guess.

i also was told dat i have a higher rate of my other lung collapsing, and i was offered preventative surgery, in which i did turn it dwn cuz da way i saw it why pt my self thru pain wen it may nt even collapse.

i hope u all r ok tho
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject:
 
Hey, I feel the pain of anyone experiencing anxiety after a Spontanious Pneumothorax.

Another young (21 years old) male, skinny and tall who has experienced 1 major and 2 minor SP's in the last year and a half.

I had my first SP February 2012, I am not sure what % it was collapsed but it took a week in the hospital on a drain to re inflate, and was by far the most painful and the only time I experienced shortness of breath/pain when moving.

Since the first I have had 2 (that I went to the hospital for, god knows how many minor SP's I have experienced since the first) which were just minor and didn't require drains, just an overnight stay.

This was all on the left side, each time it happened I could feel the crackling/popping sensation when laying on my left side in bed and this is how I knew for certain I had a leak. Bending over also produced the feeling.

After the third SP, my doctor recommended Thoracic Pleurodesis, and I had the surgery about 3 months later in January, they also did an apical resection. Since the surgery I have recovered fine and I have not had any problems other than occasional pain on my left side, which I was assured was normal.

In the weeks prior to the surgery I started feeling similar pain on my right side, but x-rays showed nothing on the right side. So I chalked up as anxiety.

This pain on the right side has been consistent since it began, but I don't want to have more X-Rays than I need to, I've had a lot, one as recently as last month which was also clear (on both sides, thankfully). I find myself thinking about it almost constantly if the pain is present, and googling my symptom has aided to worsen the problem 10 fold.

My question is, from what I have read, Hamman's Sign (The crunching/popping feeling from the heart beating against the muscles with air in between them) is only present for LEFT SP's and not right, as this is how I have identified all my SP's in the past, by that unmistakable crunching feeling. Has anyone who had a Right side SP experienced the popping, or any symptom other than the shoulder/upper chest pain/shortness of breath?

Thanks for reading and sorry if I rambled.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:29 am    Post subject:
 
hi steehehe,

I had a collapse on my right side beginning of march, which wasn't treated until beginning of april due to misdiagnosis (I had chest needle aspiration, in and out of A&E in 3 hours).

Since then I too have had major anxiety, purely through worrying why it happened and will it happen again. I often find myself with aches and pains in that general area when feel anxious, once I get myself to calm down they tend to go way. This website has been a godsend in understanding what happened to me, and the possible next stages of it.

I have definitely experienced crackles and gurgling sensations since the collapse. (I should probably mention that I still have a small % of a collapse as the needle aspiration left less than 2cm of air still in the wrong place, which they said would heal itself and it hasn't, actually seeing a specialist tomorrow). Quite often when I bend down and stand up again I feel air a couple cm down from my collar bone gurgling about, I sometimes even get it just from taking a deep breath. I had lots of crackling type wheezing lower down in my lung after my procedure but that seems to have gone now.

So after my essay!! It seems it does happen to the right side too, in my experience anyway.

I have posted recently with some questions, would love your opinion if you have the chance to take a read?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:06 am    Post subject:
 
Adam,

I had some anxiety as well after my VATS, seriously it was crazy. I would have flash backs to the ICU stays and chest tube insertions while I was fully awake. Its a scary thing you are NOT ALONE! I've also been super paranoid about going on vacation or flying in an airplane. My surgeon told me I need to live my life and quit worrying about what 'could' happen. He is right I want to do everything that any other person would. I really try not to think about it. The anxiety has gotten better over the past year.

I also had some heart fluttering very frequently shortly after my VATS. I had to wear the 24 hr heart monitor and it was found that my hear is fine it was anxiety related. My doctor offered to give ma anxiety drugs but I declined.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:04 pm    Post subject: Generalized Anxiety Disorder and SP
 
My spontaneous pneumothorax was in the spring of 2014 (I think). Left lung was 80% collapsed. All went well there. Chest tube, reinflation, done.

I also have GAD which was dormant for about seven years and which wasn't an issue for my lung collapse. Now what's happened is my wife had a hysterectomy which caused a relapse of my anxiety disorder. I went back on meds to control the anxiety. Then a job offer and looming move further raised the baseline level of stress.

Then the other morning the weather changed, low pressure front and rain, and I awoke with tenderness at the upper-chest site of my former chest tube. I must have slept funny because my back was sore as well. I can take nice deep breaths, walk up hills without sharp chest pains, sing in choir, etc., but because I have anxiety I'm occasionally convinced that it collapsed again.

I'm both sure it's fine and terrified that it isn't. If no change happens soon I'll go have a GP listen to my chest and maybe an x-ray. Hoping it's nothing.

Update: Nope, small collapse. At the hospital now.
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